Nov. 17, 2021

Interview with Jake Query Transcript!

Host Mike: Welcome to another episode of pit lane parley. I am your host, MikeJoachim, McBridge. And Matt both joined me and joining for the first time special guest, Mr.Jake Query. So Jake, how are you? How's the, uh, new radio show. 

Jake Query: You know, it's difficult to answer that might because it takes place so early in the morning.

And then I go home and go to sleep and it's all kind of like a dream. So I guess it's going okay. I'm still employed. I've made it to Wednesday that probably there probably could have been like a parlay over under you could've gotten on that, but no, I appreciate it. I'm happy to, happy to talk to you guys.

You know, I know the work that you do to. Um, what now is obviously, you know, kind of a secondary job for me, but it's been really a primary thing I've been involved with for most of a decade and a half now, which is strange to say, but, um, things are going well. So I appreciate the time and I appreciate talking to you guys.


Host Mike: Yeah, of course. It's, uh, it was good to, I think this year was [00:01:00] the first year I actually met you when I was walking around with Shannon. And, uh, obviously we followed, uh, you know, indy car radio and, and all that fun stuff. I'll let Shannon go with the, with the first question here, and then we'll just rotate through the three of us.

Shannon: Oh, okay. Thanks Mike. I'm putting you right on the spot. Um, cool. Alright, so Jake, um, walk me through, like, what happened when, when you, your radio show originally got canceled and what you did. In the meantime, while you're freelancing, I know you were with Indy car radio, but the season's not, you know, all year long.

And so what did that look like and how did you get back to now having a full-time radio show? 

Jake Query: You know, it's a great question, Shan. I appreciate you asking me that. I, so I had done a radio show with iHeart radio out of Indianapolis. It's interesting because I had originally worked at WIBC, which is how I got into radio.

I'd worked in. [00:02:00] And then in 2007, I left channel six because men's Welsh had called me and said, Hey, I'm leaving. WIBC that looking for a morning? Sports guy on the radio? I think you'd be perfect. So I made the jump from television to radio, which probably aesthetically speaking is more along lines for what I was made to do anyway.

So. I've made the jump over to radio. And in that capacity, I, my dream had always been to be a part of the Indianapolis 500 radio broadcast. And knowing that was the flagship radio network for the 500 radio broadcast, I managed to at least get the door to be able to do IMS radio. So that's how I did that.

And then when I left in 2001, Um, you know, I was doing wasting stuff only for like two years and somewhere around there. And then I heart radio, which was the competing radio station to the fan called me. And they had an opening for the afternoons. And I said, I would love to talk to you guys, but I want it [00:03:00] contractually written in that my voice is allowed to be used on both stations that I am still allowed to be on the fan doing racing and that the racing people, the.

Without having a problem, we'll be doing an afternoon show an iHeart. So that was all copacetic. It was all signed off. I was very fortunate and I've always been grateful for that. So at any rate to flash forward to your question now, circuitous leap. When I worked for iHeartRadio in January of 2020, I woke up on the first business day of the year, and I had a text message from the program director, which was my boss that said, Hey, Jake, as soon as you get a chance, Brett needs to see you, who was the general manager of the radio station.

And I knew exactly what that meant. That is the equivalent of listen. They want to see you and be sure to bring your helmet and your hans device. Right? I mean like, you know what that means? So I called and he said, listen, Jake, I need you to come in here as soon as you can. And I said, well, let me ask you this.

Is it just me? [00:04:00] Or is it myself at Derek? Who was my cohost? And he said, no, no, it's about 1500 people. And I said, okay. I just said, so I need you in here the next 30 minutes. And I said, well, if I'm later, you're gonna fire me?. He laughed and said, you're right. Just get in here when you can. So on my way there, I made two phone calls, all my girlfriend to say, you're going to pick up dinner this weekend.

Um, I called my parents because I thought I might as well tell my parents I'm unemployed before they see it in the paper. And then I called the fan and said, Hey, listen, I am effectively right now about to become a. And that reopened the communication with that radio station. Um, and I did some freelance stuff for them in the interim, but I did have contractually a buyout that bought me some time.

So for all, and then in March, you know, the world shut down with COVID. So like all of a sudden I tell people, I, I, I got laid off before it was trendy, [00:05:00] but like the rest of the world slid back to where I was, right. Where nobody was going into work. But March, April, may, June, you know, that the racing stuff was set up.

I just assumed. When I was in St. Petersburg, Florida in March of 2020, and I was not on the first practice section for lights, for the broadcast. I was in my hotel and I woke up and there was an email from Mark Miles, said we're done until at minimum, June. And I remember right then thinking we're not going to turn the wheel the entire year.

Obviously that turned out to be not true, but you know, Shannon, when you know, ahead of time that you've got to start saving your money and making it last, you can make it last a long time. I just would do little freelance jobs here and there. And then finally about a month ago, something opened up in terms of a full-time position at the fan.

I applied for them, went through the protocols and the procedures and everything that goes into it. And I'm the luckiest guy alive, man. I know I'm the luckiest guy or in your case moment. I know I'm the luckiest person that there is a [00:06:00] very fortunate and very blessed. And I'm still waiting for the world to figure out that I don't have much of a skillset, but for right now, I'm going to write it out for as long as I can.

 You guys been breaking some stories over the last couple of months, but don't break that. We'll keep that one under our, under our thumb. Yeah. I can always edit that out. If, if, if you need me to, uh, you know, it can happen, but I'm not saying anything. Nobody doesn't already know.

Host Mike: So, so, uh, I'll jump in here and yeah. Matt and go ahead after me. But so the new show is, is Kevin query Monday morning, seven to 10:00 AM. Uh what's what's it been like? I know you've only done, you know, as we're recording this two days, but it what's it been like so far, what can, what can listeners expect?

And I guess, you know, for those who maybe aren't in, in Indy, where can they, is it possible to listen to.

Jake Query: It is, um, it's a [00:07:00] 1 0 7 5. The is the website. And then of course the podcasts are later put up on all of the podcast format. I mean, notably iHeart, ironically enough. Um, but Kevin Bowen is the guy that has been writing for their website for a number of years.

As a matter of fact, he worked for the Colts and when he was, when he left the group, Um, you know, I, at that time, Conrad brought her who was kind of afraid of all of us that work in the local media, was a writer for the fans' website and Conrad left the fan. And I remember calling Kevin because he had just left the cultist today.

This, this would be a perfect job for you. He's a very talented writer. He's extremely knowledgeable in particular about the Colts, because that's his background. That's where he worked. So he got on board with them and then their morning show, they had two individuals on their morning show that for various reasons.

The part of the market in terms of being involved in the media. So that elevated Kevin up into being on the radio full-time about four or five months ago. And [00:08:00] then they had an opening for his cohost, which a number of very worthy people applied for, um, as been, I, I think my previous relationship probably helped me in that regard.

So I've been paired with Kevin. Um, and listen, I, you know, this is what I think Kevin's a really talented guy. Very bright. Uh he's you know, 15 years my junior. And so I've just always said, I mean, I've been very lucky that I've had my moment. I've had my, my turn, if you will. And I think Kevin's moments here.

And so I'm happy to be on board to help. And rise and enjoy that moment. Um, you know, we go on every morning from seven until 10 o'clock in the morning and we talk sports. And whether it be the, you know, obviously it's very cold, heavy, because this is the middle of the NFL season. And Indianapolis is an NFL city.

I know that they were very excited about my connection to the month of may and the Speedway. And I would imagine that that will facilitate a greater amount of coverage about the Indy [00:09:00] 500, once that rolls around. And then in the summertime, of course, racing comes into play. Pacers cold six, your typical sports talk stuff, and then hopefully intermixing some personality and people getting to know the quirks about me and letting the city kind of come along with me with the struggle of a proverbial night owl and a life-long insomniac subtly doing morning radio.

Like why why'd I come along to find out whether or not I can do it so far. So good.

Matt Hickey: Jake congrats on the gigs. Thanks for joining tonight. And we appreciate it. You've kind of been downplaying your, your skills a little bit. So I'm going to try to, to change it up here and, uh, uh, I'm going to be your hype man hype man for a second, I guess. So let's hypothetically say that someone in Hollywood has decided they're going to make a movie about Jake Query.

Uh, it's gotta be about your whole life and all the, all the great things that's gone on so far, everything like that. Ups downs. Who do you think the director would cast as the [00:10:00] actor that would play Jake in the Jake Query Movie? And it can't be you.

 Uh, well, let me begin by saying this, um, great question.

Jake Query: I'm flattered. You ask it. I'll begin by saying this. It would be a lot less about who plays me a lot more about who plays the people that have been in my life because I've been really lucky to have the best supporting. Known to man. You know, I had, I went through a health scare about a year ago. I was sitting in a hospital room for 31 hours and I tell people all the time, fortunately, I was awake and alert pretty much.

Okay. For the 31 hours, I just had to sit there tethered to machines. And, you know, I tell people the one thing I learned in the epiphany of that moment was you take a look back at your life when you're facing your own mortality. And the thing I realized is that. I looked back at my life like a book and I loved every character and some characters have more pertinent chapters than others, but I've loved every character in my book.

So there would be, it would be like one of these Quintin [00:11:00] Tarantino movies with an all-star cast. I will tell you that in the terms of my speech delivery and simply because I'm over six foot three, the person that most people tell me, I remind them of is best bond. So if I had to pick, I would go with benchmark only because that's what other people do.

I remind them of, and that might be simply because in old school he was a sarcastic, angry guy that was totally unaware of his age versus everyone around them. So maybe I should take that as a compliment. I see the resemblance.

Yeah, we talked trash about you. Uh, Vince Vaughn is playing J query and the jQuery movie. We just announced that here that's another one of our breaking news bulletins. That's going to come out here, but we will put those yellow triangles right next to that for you.

Shannon: Um, okay, so really what did we, what did we ask him? Cause I'm sorry. I really did lose you guys. No, I honestly did ask him [00:12:00] that was the question would play him in the movie. 

Matt Hickey: That was, that was a hundred percent. I'm not messing a gun. You can listen to it. Don't worry. 

Shannon: So thanks. Thanks Hickey. We don't have to tell us about it because you put the whole story on Twitter, which I love so much, but tell us about you just ran a mini right.

Jake Query: Six months. I did. I was, you know, it was really interesting Shannon because October 22nd, 2020, 2020 was when I had my heart attack. So October 22nd, 2021 was the one year mark about heart attack. And I think, no, look, I'm not unique. I mean, everybody has things they've gone through. Everybody has moments, so it's all relative, but for me, That moment like that that year was unique because you're constantly thinking, okay, it's three months.

It's been six months. It's been nine months. And the one year mark to me was very symbolic because of the fact that it's one year. But also because that means you've [00:13:00] been through everything one time since it happened. And I got up on the morning of the 22nd, about three weeks before my one year. The cardio.

Well, I say cardiologist, pretend to be speaking. He's a cardiological interventionists, which has got to be the greatest business card of all time. Like, I mean, I told him, I'm like, if I had your business card, every piece of clothing I'd have would say, like, I am a cardiological interventionists, you know what I mean?

But Dr. Benjamin Bob in the community, up in Indianapolis, he's a great dude. And is the guy that did my angioplasty and saved my life, you know, opened my heart back up from a hundred percent. He texted me about three weeks before the one-year anniversary and said, Hey, I don't know what you're doing on the 22nd, but it's just over four and a half miles from blind owl, which is the restaurant where I was when my heart attack began to the heart hospital, which was where I was obviously driven by my buddy Mac angled to take me when I had the heart [00:14:00] attack.

And he said, you know, we'd have to go some side roads, but what do you think about running it together on your one-year anniversary? And we had done the mini marathon together at my six month mark, because during my heart attack, I asked him, do you think I'd ever be able to again, do the mini marathon?

And he said, man, there was so much that goes into that. And I said, well, I'll make you a deal if I make it out of this room. And I knew the realities, I knew that it was probably 50 50. I wasn't going to make it out of that room, but I stood up, I make it out of this room and I put myself in position to do the mini marathon.

I want you to do it. And he held to his word and on April 22nd, which was a six month, month, we ran 13.1 miles together. We both knew there was no way that we're actually gonna do the many cause of COVID. Right. But we still did the 13.1 together on the Mon on. And so then on the one year mark, we ran together, um, from blind owl to the hospital.

And then afterwards it was really interesting. We, we got done and he drove me back to my car. And he thanked me [00:15:00] and said, you know, I just want to thank you for the last year. He's a younger guy. I mean, he's 35. He's excellent at what he does obviously. And I said, you know, mom, and like, you don't need to thank me.

Obviously I'll forever be indebted to you. I will, there are a lot of cardiological interventionists that could have saved my life that day. But I'm glad that you were the one on shift because you know, there's a connection there. And he probably, you know, he has a lot of people whose life he saved. I was very blessed to, to have that connection with them and that trust in him and for him to say that to me meant a lot.

But, but my answer is this, like, it was just unique to me because on that one year, mark, I realized that I was coming to the conclusion that the best year of my life, it really was the best year of my life because. Not only was, I mean, you know, I was basically encouraged by people that sit around and be lazy and I mean, who the hell doesn't want that?

Right. That's the greatest thing ever, but, but, you know, things were just put in perspective to me and I [00:16:00] think I've always been appreciative of things, but you just go to a different level with it and you have a greater understanding and you realize some of the things that you worried about and you sweated about.

Just really aren't consequential. And, you know, I had a, a city that I loved dearly reach out to me in a lot of ways and reach out and touch me. And it meant the world to me. It really did. And I, I will never forget it. I'll always be grateful for it. Um, but you know, no matter what happens between now and the rest of my life, probably I look back on 2020 at a year when I didn't have a job.

On the second day of the year, I walked into an armed robbery and had a gun to my head. I had a heart attack in October and it was the best year of my life because all of it gave me perspectives that, um, I was aware of, but they were greatly illuminated. And so I became more appreciative of them. And I'm always grateful for that.

I love that actually, because in a time when people are [00:17:00] so mad about everything and find negativity and everything. You found a way to be positive about everything. So that is, you know, I didn't have a choice, you know what I mean? Like I, I mean, I guess I did, but you know, here's what I say and I'm not, you know, look, I'm not trying to, I'll try it to be stewards tamale.

Like, you know, life's great, like philosophies here, but when I was sitting in that room, no, he came in mad. Men came in and said, listen, here's the deal. You know, they saw the EKG. And he said, you have a 100% blockage of your heart and the Widowmaker. And he said, we're going to get you in there. We're going to take care of you.

And I said, okay. And he explained what was going on. And the cath lab was being, you know, prepared for me to go in for my procedure and that it was going to be about 15 minutes before the cath lab was ready. And I looked right at him and I said, so tell me, this doc should be straight. [00:18:00] And he said, okay.

And I said, I'm going to die. Right? They said, well, you're in the best place that you could possibly be to stave that process if it were to be get him. And I said, that really didn't answer my question at all, which in fact gave me a great answer to my question. Batman was Baba was extremely smooth and poised and I mean, he was everything you would ever want in that moment, but he said, I will tell you the next 15 minutes is very critical.

And so I had 15 minutes basically to sit and everything went quiet and there was, it was an IndyCar pitstop. It was an IndyCar pitstop on the last stint of the Indy 500. And I knew that it was either for me going to go Roberto Guerrero in 87, or it was going to go Gordon Johncock at ADG. Right. And so all this activity is going on around me and everybody has a job to do.

And like the front left is operating precisely. Getting medicine into my mouth. And, uh, you know, the fuel [00:19:00] hose is going into the perfect intravenous medicine in the media to try to send my blood out. And I mean, everything had to go perfectly for me. And in that moment, everything went silent. And during that silence, I had a tremendous piece and that tremendous piece was, I knew that it was going to go one of two ways.

And I knew that I left nothing out there on regional. The people that I love, no, I love them. The people that I've ever had an issue with, we have long since talked it out and I just didn't feel like I owed anything. And I certainly didn't feel like anyone owed me anything. And so whichever way it went, I was at complete peace with that.

And what I would wish for everybody or encourage everybody at the risk of sounding preachy is that you live your life in a way you feel a comfort in how you're going to feel in that. Because in that room, nothing else matters, but the peace of mind, that's going to get you through it. And I'm [00:20:00] fairly convinced that peace of mind is the reason I'm talking to you right now.

Matt Hickey: Oh, Dave, I did not expect all of this to be so like profound. That's amazing. I know, I, I feel like I got to go hug host Mike. 

Jake Query: Yeah. Well, if you're going to ask me, see, look, my two options are that I'll talk to you about the engineering of bottle raised and I flunked every geometry class I ever had. And I got a 20%, 22% in freshmen algebra.

So when it comes to figuring out race cars, I'm screwed, but I, I love it because I can't figure out race cars either. I, the math is not my Mo my four day. Nope. Nope. I think we can all agree on that. I'm going to trend. No, I meant for all of us, not just, you

Host Mike: Kind of transitioning a little bit to racing, but you know, you've gotten to work. Robin Miller, Bob Jenkins, Tom Carnegie, a whole host of amazing characters, but [00:21:00] what's, you know, when you look back on it now, what's it like to work with some of the, I guess we could say legends of, of Motorsports?

Jake Query: I mean, it's incredulous. It's a great honor. It's a tremendous honor. I, I. For me, listen, guys, I'm just a kid that grew up on the north side of Indy and I loved the Indy 500 and I love listening to it. I went to the Indy 500 for the first time when I was eight and a half years old in 1981. And I've only missed a few races since, and even the races that I went with, my dad, I would give my mom like a set tape and the specific instructions on when to record.

And I would listen to those tapes and listen to the races, driving to school in the morning and reenact them. All of it. So the timing went my way, where then I, all of a sudden I found myself in a situation where I'm taking to use a radio term, a toss from Bob Jenkins, a toss from Paul Page and a toss from my game toss for [00:22:00] Mark James, and then toss.

But, you know, From all those guys. Right. And they're all legendary figures and I'm just like a small piece of ticker tape it's in the parade of their life. And that's a very surreal feeling. And I know that I don't measure to that. I know that, but to put myself in that position and have things go my way, I'm grateful and humbled by.

More so than even from a professional standpoint of, you know, Jerry Baker, including, you know, all those guys, Tom Carnegie, like you mentioned more so than, than the surreal flattering honor of being able to share an airways with those guys was just the privilege of getting to know them as people and his friends.

You know, I, I love Robin Miller and I'll never. Obviously stopped loving Robin Miller, but I don't know that there's any way to properly explain what he's meant to me along with other people. And the [00:23:00] thing about Robin Miller, that's so fabulous. Everybody that knew him has their own connection to them, that they feel is probably tighter than anyone else has.

And. You know, there's, there's so much with Robin that I've known for being around him for almost 30 years and the things he did for me. Um, Bob Jenkins has the greatest disparity or had, how does that sound to say the greatest disparity between an individual's level of accomplishment and the grasp of their level of accomplishment of anybody I've ever met in a good way?

He was the most humbled down. Person on the planet. Um, I love Bob Jenkins, I guess if everybody on this earth, that aspired to be half the man and the scrupulous nature of Bob Jenkins and the humility of Bob Jenkins to be a better world. Um, Donald Davidson's in that same category. I mean, to be able to all that all on the phone [00:24:00] and go over to his house in may and sit on his porch and talk about.

No worries from the past for a couple of hours, I can never, ever, ever, no matter how long I live, no matter how many interviews I do or podcasts I do, or how many times I get up at six in the morning, you do a morning radio show. I could never fully articulate or embody what it means to have the privilege of all of those individuals, not just from a broadcast or the prestigious BetterCloud standpoint, but for the humanitarian standpoint of being connected to all of them and allowing them.

Or, or them allowing me to be connected to them. It's something that, um, it's difficult to explain. That's the best I can explain it, but all of them in their own way are God's and gift to human beings. And I'm just incredibly, incredibly grateful that my time, in some way, in a small shape or form.

Matt Hickey: Yeah. I mean, honestly, with the way you've been talking and whatever, just kind [00:25:00] of having you on this show. I, I, I'm just, you know, I can think I can speak for all of us just to lucky, just to talk to you and hear your perspective on things. It's amazing. So, you know, to say, we can check this one off and say that we got Jake Query on here is a good, it's been phenomenal.

Jake Query: Well, listen, let me tell you guys something I've done. I was a fan of the 500 and so. I got really lucky and kind of getting involved in racing in general with that. Right. I mean, it's disingenuous to say that I grew up wanting to tracks all over the country all summer long. That that would be an accurate, but over the course of doing it and being around and calling, you know, the races for, I don't know what it is 15 years or whatever, you know, one thing I've learned is that there, there are two things.

Racing has great fans, which, you know, The racing also has very knowledgeable fans that esoteric really have a love for the sport, but also a desire to [00:26:00] share that love and communicate that love to other people, whether they're introductory fans or whether they are knowledgeable, passionate, longstanding fans.

And I've seen a lot of people and been appreciative of the fact that a lot of people have worked very hard to create their own niche and carve their own path and to being a part of the racing itself and to spread the word of racing and I've seen some of them that, that have done so very well. I've seen others that have done it, where they gave it a good college try, but it wasn't for them.

And, you know, good on both obviously, but you guys have done actually that, I mean, I think you've done a remarkable job of showing a dedication to the sport of sticking by the passion that you have for it, getting out good information, getting information to people that don't know as much about. Getting information to people that do know a lot about it, but trust your knowledge of it and feel a connection to your knowledge because they too have a passion.

So, um, I think we need as much of that as [00:27:00] possible. And I think any time that anybody is trying to blaze their own path in that regard, I think we have a responsibility to do what we can to help through that and grow that path. And so I'm appreciative of your guys' ability. To continue to grow a sport.

That obviously has meant a lot to me. 

Host Mike: think I would be in near tears in the, in, uh, in a Tuesday night recording. 

Matt Hickey: Yeah. I mean, we're we, yeah, we've, we've come a long ways and I don't know about everybody, but I think we're, we're planning on chugging along here for a good while here. Um, growing in different areas, but I think we're, we're doing good at it.

It's because we do put a lot of hard work in, but you know, having people like you come on the show, uh, definitely makes it easier for us, for people to listen to us. So we appreciate it again your time. Um, so that was very kind of, you think. I had kind of a question from today, actually. Um, it stems from a discussion we had last week on our episode [00:28:00] about Kyle Kirkwood, Marshall Pruett from Racer Mag is reported in that Kyle Kirkwood will be full-time for a J Foyt racing next season in the 14 car.

I just wanted to a kind of get your thoughts on Kyle Kirkwood. We've heard a lot of great things about him, and I just wanted to see if you had it. Insights or opinions about Kyle. And then the second one was a discussion that we had about is a part-time role, maybe at a stronger team, more advantageous for them, or is a full-time ride, no matter where it is the best course of action.

Jake Query: Even if it's for a team that has been a little slower in the past couple of years, like Foyt, I think the latter part of that, and, you know, look at willpower. I realized that the level of experience of willpower when he was a part-time driver for parents getting a level of experience of Kyle Kirkwood would now are two different things.

But Will Power opted when he was filling in for Helio [00:29:00] to stick with Penske part-time and see what came of it. They had all the resources, all the tools to get his putting underneath them and start getting results of then you saw what happened to his career. I think the challenge for Kirkwood is going to be.

With point, it is a team that I do think that it depends on how much, if any I'm Sebastian Bourdais and this, you know, that that's the million dollar question, right? How much has four day or even Kimball going to be around to offer any sort of engineering advice? That's going to be the challenge because regardless of how much success you have coming into, it's still a different card and still a different.

And I think that, that, you know, there's no secret in the fact that with AJ Foyt Racing that engineer or the ingenuity thereof has been, that's been the challenge. And that's been the difficult set for a Kirkwood that is, could you go to a team and get [00:30:00] and pinchhit? You could, but then all of a sudden, are you putting yourself in an OliverAskew position where one or two races, all of a sudden, something that goes beyond your control.

You don't get a lot of laps turned in it and now all of a sudden you're quickly becoming an afterthought, I guess. And I'm not saying it's an afterthought by any stretch, but you know what I mean, when I'm saying that, you know, he's still trying to pick and choose like where, where he can go in as he did last year, but in the terms of Kirkwood, I can see it both ways.

I do think that if you are a young driver that is trying to show ability to get good results, Then it's just like spins of the roulette wheel. You need as many opportunities for that as possible. So while the odds might be stacked up against him with voice, he's going to get more opportunities over the course of the higher number of races to be visible.

The other thing to get a little bit more margin for error, [00:31:00] don't go well for him over a year with. Going to get probably some benefit of the doubt of people saying, yeah, but it's not like he was of the best of equipment. And I mean, that is no disrespect to Larry Porter, that team. But I just think from an engineering standpoint, they're a little behind the eight ball.

So maybe he gets a little bit of a benefit of about there, if it were me and I was advising him, I would take a hard look at teams that might have a part-time opportunity. But if it was anybody other than one of the big three, I would go with safety and numbers and the burden of the hand and go with the full-time ride.

Matt Hickey: I just had a quick followup. So when you say the big three, would you say that after this last season, would you say that Andretti is still in the big three with you with Ganassi and Penske or is McLaren and Rahal flirting on the fringes of the big three. 

Jake Query: Yeah, that's a really good point. Um, I guess when I say the big three, I'm not necessarily meaning [00:32:00] in terms of the total results at this point, but in terms of the overall resources and the money allocation and the ability to get full-time sponsorship, your point's well taken.

There's no question about the fact that, you know, look obviously elevated their profile, right. And re. Yeah, to your point. I mean, all can figure out how to get out of qualifying what they're able to do during the races that look out. Right. Because I think Graham would be the first to tell you, I mean, they, they, they have race packages and race strategies that have done well.

But obviously they're qualifying efforts are the thing that sets them back a little bit from the, you know, going into or midway through the weekend. So, yeah, there's not a huge drop-off there just in terms of the overall money would be the difference, but in terms of the performance point well-taken, I mean, it's, it's probably now big two and then really good size three, but below.

Shannon: I would just like [00:33:00] to point out that Jake Query has agreed with everything I said last week. So I'm taking that as a low, we went back.

Host Mike: Yep. That's that's totally fair. Shannon, if you want to wrap it up with any last question now that you know, you've gotten some gloating in, we will, I will gladly let you do

Shannon: You have a super huge fan, who is a super huge fan because of the Colts. And so I told him that I would give you a shout out. So his name is Matthew St. Thomas and I told him, I would tell you, and he promised to download the podcast. So it's a win-win for both of us. Um, my question lastly is what is your favorite 500 you've attended?

And what is your favorite 500 that you have covered?

Jake Query: first off. I hope Mathieu's not listening too late because if I'm not mistaken early alarm clock for Matt too much like me, if I, if I'm remembering correctly from tweets[00:34:00] 

My favorite 500 is a kid probably a toss up that are probably two that, you know, actually I would say 87, I was a huge Roberto Guerrero. And I was a huge fan of Roberta Guerrero's check-in third, fourth, and second. And his first four races and 87 after Mario's car went out, I thought for sure it was Roberto Guerra.

I was day and I was thrilled by it. I was absolutely elated. And then obviously grow has the pit problem late in the race and that surrenders the lead to Alex or senior and Alex, her senior takes the lead and goes on to win the five on. And there was this fourth win and I was in the eighth grade and it was 87, the spring of 87.

And like Indiana won the national title in March. And Alex are senior, which is 4 3500. And in may, and I'm at Eastwood middle school. And with the Eagles and football, we were undefeated that year. And like my whole life was, everything was perfect. And Alex are [00:35:00] senior at that time. No resemblance to my dad.

And so to see Al Unser Sr. At, uh, you know, not a far off age from my dad at the time, looking like my dad drinking the milk for the fourth time, it's in the middle east speaking. And just for a million reasons, because what I wanted to happen didn't happen, but something great and a personal feel for me happened instead.

And that's kind of how my life luckily has fallen into place. So I would say 87 in terms of the best race that I've called or been a part of from a working standpoint, I was working at channel six for the finish of the oh six race. And I remember being right there when Marco got out of his car and he looked basically right at me, not to me, but right at me and said, where did the speed come from talking about Hornish.

Um, and I'll always remember that, but in terms of calling the race and it's the easy answer. And I apologize for being [00:36:00] vague in the generic, in the answer, but probably the one hundreds for all of the obvious reasons, but also because on the last lap, as Rossi's coming to me from a selfish standpoint on the radio network, There's a lot of trust that goes into those of us in the four corners, because we can't always hear each other.

We can't always hear what the other one is saying. We can't always hear how they're throwing to us. There's just a lot of trust that goes into it. And after 2011, when JR Hildebrand hit the wall and all of us were kind of confused who was running behind, we were very conscientious. Would Rossi was running out of fuel of knowing who was running behind him and where they were.

Nick Yeoman and turn to threw it to me by stating the Carlos Munoz and Josef Newgarden were charging, which was a brilliant moment of clarity for Nick and that standpoint to remember to set it to me so that I knew who I was looking for. So I see [00:37:00] Rossi ghosting underneath me. And I'm waiting for Munoz and Newgarden, and I'm thinking, where are they?

Like, where are they? Where are they? Cause I thought, I thought without question, they were going to go on either side of him, a lot of the addresses on Eddie Cheever at the start of the race, you know, when, when they just blew right past them at 92. And I thought for certain, that's what I was going to see and they never showed up.

And so I dropped toChristhis overwhelming incredulous nature in my voice, or the fact that Rashi was on fumes and. That was the first time that in, uh, in calling a moment of the race, that I was able to comprehend and grasp what I was actually seeing, because typically it happens so fast.

And so instinctive that it's not until later that you look back on it and if anyone ever plays a clip, I have no recollection or a memory of the things that we said. And so in that moment was the first time that I was aware of it while it was happening. And it was a great moment in the history and [00:38:00] the annals of that track in terms of a rookie and the guy that turned out to obviously be an elite level driver winning in his rookie year, winning the 100 running to be able to be there for the largest single day spectator sport in world history was remarkable.

And from a working standpoint, I can't see that we'll ever top

Shannon: . I love that. And also because of my super fandom for Rossi. So I'm here for this answer.

Host Mike: I was, I was waiting for Shannon to say that at the end there. All right, Jake. Well, you've been super gracious with your time tonight. And like Matt said, we appreciate it and appreciate all the kind words.

Uh, we will be sure to, to, you know, tag you on Twitter. So everybody who might not listen to your show can start listening and, and all that fun stuff. But I just wanted to say thank you very much. And, uh, you know, we definitely look forward to seeing you at the track next year.